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Frying Doom 2142	Posted - 2013.04.04 23:17:00 - [1] - Quote Will admit, so far this years elections have been rather tame. Mind you I think CCP has underestimated the number of bloc candidates to normal people. And while no vote is wasted, a lot of wasted votes from last year, were to set up a mandate so not really wasted anyway, as they were a deliberate show of strength. Vote Now My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras
Frying Doom 2142	Posted - 2013.04.04 23:41:00 - [2] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Whoever did that voting screen interface, I am impressed. That's some good web design there. Actually I was going to say kind of the opposite. I liked it the first time but I just did it on all my accounts and the randomisation made it as annoying as hell. But without the randomisation I suppose it would mean donkey votes would actually mean something and this why it is just random noise. Well voted. Vote Now My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras
Frying Doom 2143	Posted - 2013.04.04 23:55:00 - [3] - Quote Vito Tattaglia wrote: I have pressed the butan. Now when does Obama step down? What? but you just voted for him. Vote Now My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras
Frying Doom 2201	Posted - 2013.04.06 23:23:00 - [4] - Quote Ereilian wrote: I voted by not voting. Give us a non of the above option and I will vote. By not voting you are lowering the ability for the CSM to be an effective voice to CCP So in reality you just back stabbed every EvE player. Vote Now My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras
Frying Doom 2204	Posted - 2013.04.07 03:35:00 - [5] - Quote Ace Uoweme wrote: Captain Tardbar wrote: Malcanis wrote: Ereilian wrote: I voted by not voting. Give us a non of the above option and I will vote. What didn't you like about my platform? Personally.... It comes across that you are tool of nullsec. Let alone never had home training. People don't vote for candidates that would spit in your eye, and then ask you for a vote. They vote and/or canvass to have the bum thrown out. Especially candidates who claim to be neutral or "independent" but trying to butter the bread on both sides. A schemer trying to profit at anyone's expense. A bought and paid for special interest candidate. Simple parasitic trash. So you have never seen any politician any where then? We all know that they will run us through as soon as they are elected. At least Malcanis is honest. Vote Now My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras
Frying Doom 2263	Posted - 2013.04.08 07:05:00 - [6] - Quote dark heartt wrote: I voted! But then again I always vote... Just because you always do does not make it any less important that you have now. Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null.
Frying Doom 2277	Posted - 2013.04.09 02:06:00 - [7] - Quote Ereilian wrote: AndromacheDarkstar wrote: Ereilian wrote: I voted by not voting. Give us a non of the above option and I will vote. Your quite clearly an idiot, theres people from every part of the game to choose from here. Inaction is as pointless as trying to sound like a big man and "choosing not to vote" Oh my, being abused by a Goon pet is certainly a new experience. The only person trying to sound like a big man as you so quaintly put it is yourself, the decision not to vote is as valid as the decision to vote. So my advice, head back under that bridge, it misses you. Yes I completely agree with you. If you are after a Null controlled CSM, not voting will have the same effect as if you voted for Null. I for one are not so pleased for a completely Null dominated CSM, but each to their own. Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null.
Frying Doom 2279	Posted - 2013.04.09 02:38:00 - [8] - Quote Ereilian wrote: Frying Doom wrote: Yes I completely agree with you. If you are after a Null controlled CSM, not voting will have the same effect as if you voted for Null. I for one are not so pleased for a completely Null dominated CSM, but each to their own. Snipped to avoid pyramiding. While I understand your stance, for those of us who do not feel invested in the process it is irrelevant we already know that bloc voting is a reality. The new system actively rewards the bloc vote. Therefore the only protest available is non involvement. If there was a system to recognise the discontent with the process then it would be a non issue. In this case non involvement is not a protest. I do sympathise I was considering the same route myself, in protest to the STV voting system and the brown nose 5. But on looking into it all I realized was that doing nothing is benefiting the Null sec alliances, If you really want to protest about the new voting system it is rather simple, either vote to change the outcome, or vote for only one candidate who you already know will get voted in. As the STV was put in place to prevent wasted votes, so if there are enough wasted votes they might actually pay attention. Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null.
Frying Doom 2282	Posted - 2013.04.09 22:54:00 - [9] - Quote VOTE OR DIE!! Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null.
Frying Doom 2285	Posted - 2013.04.10 09:02:00 - [10] - Quote Onyx Nyx wrote: Nah, not gonna vote this year. Bunch of clowns with downs running. Says the Null stooge Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null.

Frying Doom 2285	Posted - 2013.04.10 09:25:00 - [11] - Quote Onyx Nyx wrote: Malcanis wrote: Onyx Nyx wrote: Frying Doom wrote: Onyx Nyx wrote: Nah, not gonna vote this year. Bunch of clowns with downs running. Says the Null stooge Now, I know that fine hisec industrialists such as yourself think of anything below .7 as low sec and .3 as null but I and my alliance are wormhole dwellers. You don't like any of the 5 W-space guys that were running? No. I don't know who the **** they are and I don't really care. Your a wormhole dweller? That's worse So how much did the null blocs pay you not to vote? Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null.
Frying Doom 2285	Posted - 2013.04.10 09:36:00 - [12] - Quote Onyx Nyx wrote: Frying Doom wrote: Your a wormhole dweller? That's worse So how much did the null blocs pay you not to vote? Did your mum scare you with the tales of the boogeymen? It beats mining. Trust me. How much are you paying me to vote? Why would I pay you, you are the one who has to live with the decision, when they bring in wormhole stabilizers. But I am sure your corp mates will understand. Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null.
Frying Doom 2285	Posted - 2013.04.10 09:55:00 - [13] - Quote Onyx Nyx wrote: Frying Doom wrote: Onyx Nyx wrote: Frying Doom wrote: Your a wormhole dweller? That's worse So how much did the null blocs pay you not to vote? Did your mum scare you with the tales of the boogeymen? It beats mining. Trust me. How much are you paying me to vote? Why would I pay you, you are the one who has to live with the decision, when they bring in wormhole stabilizers. But I am sure your corp mates will understand. You are the one that is whining about me not going to vote so you might as well give me an incentive to vote on your behalf. I'll even vote for your number one candidate. :-) As for wormholes, I agree with CCP Soundwave that wormholes are a little too easy to defend once you get caps in so anything that can up that landscape would be welcome imo. It is pretty safe to say that they don't care either. So you want wormholes to be the same as null. Well not voting is the right choice for you then. Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null.
Frying Doom 2285	Posted - 2013.04.10 10:41:00 - [14] - Quote Onyx Nyx wrote: Frying Doom wrote: Well not voting is the right choice for you then. I would have preferred the option to abstain from voting but seeing that its not available (typical CCP SNAFU) my options are indeed limited and so I choose not to vote. I think it has more to do with their crusade about wasted votes. So if you cannot abstain, there fore there is no wasted vote. Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null.
Frying Doom 2319	Posted - 2013.04.13 22:08:00 - [15] - Quote LOL56 wrote: We need red 'I VOTED' stickers for our ships. An "I voted" logo on our characters on the forums would be great to have for the next 12 months. Just like the ingame wanted banner. Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null.
Frying Doom 2319	Posted - 2013.04.13 23:33:00 - [16] - Quote Douglas Adams wrote: GÇ£On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people.GÇ¥ GÇ£Odd,GÇ¥ said Arthur, GÇ£I thought you said it was a democracy.GÇ¥ GÇ£I did,GÇ¥ said Ford. GÇ£It is.GÇ¥ GÇ£So,GÇ¥ said Arthur, hoping he wasnGÇÖt sounding ridiculously obtuse, GÇ£why donGÇÖt the people get rid of the lizards?GÇ¥ GÇ£It honestly doesnGÇÖt occur to them,GÇ¥ said Ford. GÇ£TheyGÇÖve all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government theyGÇÖve voted in more or less approximates to the government they want.GÇ¥ GÇ£You mean they actually vote for the lizards?GÇ¥ GÇ£Oh yes,GÇ¥ said Ford with a shrug, GÇ£of course.GÇ¥ GÇ£But,GÇ¥ said Arthur, going for the big one again, GÇ£why?GÇ¥ GÇ£Because if they didnGÇÖt vote for a lizard,GÇ¥ said Ford, GÇ£the wrong lizard might get in.GÇ¥ Except people have now gotten so bad in this world, that now they believe that if they don't vote at all, that they are not responsible for the wrong lizard getting in. This has got to be one of the worst ideas ever thought up by the human race. If you do not vote, you are just as much to blame as those that voted for the wrong lizard. Any argument against that is purely just people trying to dodge the responsibility of actually making a decision. So far I have not seen anyone who I recognize to be from Null sec, failing to make a decision, only 1 person from Wormholes but where to the majority seem to come from? Hi-sec. Which then begs the question, are Hi-sec people risk adverse, or incapable of making decisions. They complain when Hi-sec is nerfed at all, but they are to lazy to spend a few minutes every year voting. The fact that people would put forward the argument that, they have refused to help guide the destiny of this game, so therefore they have the right to complain about the result, is just insane. They have chosen to opt out of this process by not voting, and frankly I see no reason to let them opt in when, those who will represent those who vote is chosen. CCP Xhagen wrote: Problem two: representation on the CSM. CCP Veritas pointed out the error in my thinking, what I want is not actually fair representation of ALL EVE players, but of THOSE WHO VOTE (it follows from there that the more people that vote, the better representation we get). The current voting system is sufficient, but there are many vastly better systems out there. So even CCP Xhagen believes that failure to vote, means no voice. So Vote or STFU for the next 12 months. We really need a forum tag, that says "I Voted", just so we know who to tell to bugger of with their whining. If you voted and lost so be it, at least you stood up and said "Count me in as part of the Community", rather than hid in a hole at election time only to stick your head out afterwards and complain that it is too bright. Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null.
Frying Doom 2319	Posted - 2013.04.13 23:44:00 - [17] - Quote Khira Kitamatsu wrote: Voted a few days ago, but does anyone else think that the name Malcanis belongs to an evil warlord? I mean I voted for him because he seems like a reasonable person and well versed in the Universe of EVE Online game, but his characters name - how do we know he won't just try to become the evil Emperor of EVE? You didn't see the memo? He is an evil warlord Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null.
Frying Doom 2335	Posted - 2013.04.15 03:40:00 - [18] - Quote DarthNefarius wrote: Khira Kitamatsu wrote: Voted a few days ago, but does anyone else think that the name Malcanis belongs to an evil warlord? I mean I voted for him because he seems like a reasonable person and well versed in the Universe of EVE Online game, but his characters name - how do we know he won't just try to become the evil Emperor of EVE? Confirmed Malcanis in RL is the actor that played Darth Sidious in the Star Wars movies I thought he was the RL influence behind the "Emperor" in the Star Wars movies. Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null.
Frying Doom 2339	Posted - 2013.04.16 08:51:00 - [19] - Quote Signal11th wrote: silens vesica wrote: Signal11th wrote: Or you don't vote as an active rebuff against the CSM or the need for it. I haven't voted or will vote partly down to the fact I don't see the need for the CSM or it's validity. Really? Is it that hard to figure out? It's Valid because the owners of the game decreed it to be. They decreed it in reaction to the players raising their voces and making their anger and disgust well known. Now you have a venue by which you can (by proxy) have a seat at the table. Or turn your back on the CSM, and choose to be entirely voiceless - your lack of vote hurts CCP not at all. You'd be more efffective if you held your breath until you get everything you want. CSM: It's not everything it might be, but which other game company is giving you even that much, eh? Did they? from what I remember as usual with this game that is was a very vocal minority of players as it usually is. The chiefs whip the plebs into a forum frenzy usually when there is something that usually either a: stops their income b: stops them curbstomping a smaller alliance. Yes they intelligently use every means at their disposal. because personally I can think of no movement that ever got anything without making noise. Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null.
Frying Doom 2340	Posted - 2013.04.16 11:08:00 - [20] - Quote Chitsa Jason wrote: Vote people!!! Just over 36 hours left. And then we stop whining at you about the CSM elections. Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null.

Frying Doom 2342	Posted - 2013.04.16 11:41:00 - [21] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: People was excluded from the election together with Abstain. I just thought he didn't want to be involved this year. Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null.
Frying Doom 2343	Posted - 2013.04.16 13:13:00 - [22] - Quote Signal11th wrote: Frying Doom wrote: Signal11th wrote: silens vesica wrote: Signal11th wrote: Or you don't vote as an active rebuff against the CSM or the need for it. I haven't voted or will vote partly down to the fact I don't see the need for the CSM or it's validity. Really? Is it that hard to figure out? It's Valid because the owners of the game decreed it to be. They decreed it in reaction to the players raising their voces and making their anger and disgust well known. Now you have a venue by which you can (by proxy) have a seat at the table. Or turn your back on the CSM, and choose to be entirely voiceless - your lack of vote hurts CCP not at all. You'd be more efffective if you held your breath until you get everything you want. CSM: It's not everything it might be, but which other game company is giving you even that much, eh? Did they? from what I remember as usual with this game that is was a very vocal minority of players as it usually is. The chiefs whip the plebs into a forum frenzy usually when there is something that usually either a: stops their income b: stops them curbstomping a smaller alliance. Yes they intelligently use every means at their disposal. because personally I can think of no movement that ever got anything without making noise. So you've agreed that big alliances use the CSM for not what it's intended for (whatever that was, keeping the chattering classes happy after t20) but to intimidate and twist the game to their own benefit and you now want me to vote for this..... I can think of plenty of "movements" the world could do without. As to how it was intended to be used, frankly I have no idea, there have always been so many non-voters and people who are not interested in the game around them, that the CSM has never been representative of EvE. Now is it the fault of these null sec groups that people want to give them control of the CSM? As to movements, all voices are needed in this world, no matter how strange. Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null.

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